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	<title>Comments on: Argument Against A-Rod</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.metstoday.com/07-08-offseason/2007/argument-against-a-rod/#comment-7918</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a scary and legitimate point -- particularly since Teixeira is also a Boras client.

I can see it right now -- next winter, Boras has his "book" expounding on the 50 reasons why Tex is better than and therefore more valuable (read: costly) than A-Rod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a scary and legitimate point &#8212; particularly since Teixeira is also a Boras client.</p>
<p>I can see it right now &#8212; next winter, Boras has his &#8220;book&#8221; expounding on the 50 reasons why Tex is better than and therefore more valuable (read: costly) than A-Rod.</p>
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		<title>By: skibolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>skibolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If arod does manage to get 30 million per year, what is that going to do to the asking price of guys like cabrera, tex, and howard when they hit the market.  If the market for these guys ends up in that kind of price range, more players are going to become available at the trade deadline the next several years, and less teams are going to be involved due to financial restrictions.  It's ironic that this could be the second time arod destroys the competitive balance in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If arod does manage to get 30 million per year, what is that going to do to the asking price of guys like cabrera, tex, and howard when they hit the market.  If the market for these guys ends up in that kind of price range, more players are going to become available at the trade deadline the next several years, and less teams are going to be involved due to financial restrictions.  It&#8217;s ironic that this could be the second time arod destroys the competitive balance in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: Micalpalyn</title>
		<link>http://www.metstoday.com/07-08-offseason/2007/argument-against-a-rod/#comment-7806</link>
		<dc:creator>Micalpalyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to Joe: This blog cares little for Arod!!

Weâ€™ve adhered to the commissionerâ€™s slot recommendations,â€ Minaya said. â€œWeâ€™ve been good citizens. But not all the teams have done that, and the competitive balance is not fair. We have to take that position under review as an organization.....Omar

There's fodder for a post!!!
This was in the context of the new top ten Mets prospect list. I greatly disagree with the assessment because this list does not include the 4-7 AAAA players currently part of the Mets roster. All who are a LITTLE better than predecessors, Ober Moreno, Jeff Duncan, Grant Roberts, Pat roach and Jeff Keppinger.

Baseball screwing itself (translation- Bud selig is screwing baseball),  If they continually allow teams to pee on the rules (recomendations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to Joe: This blog cares little for Arod!!</p>
<p>Weâ€™ve adhered to the commissionerâ€™s slot recommendations,â€ Minaya said. â€œWeâ€™ve been good citizens. But not all the teams have done that, and the competitive balance is not fair. We have to take that position under review as an organization&#8230;..Omar</p>
<p>There&#8217;s fodder for a post!!!<br />
This was in the context of the new top ten Mets prospect list. I greatly disagree with the assessment because this list does not include the 4-7 AAAA players currently part of the Mets roster. All who are a LITTLE better than predecessors, Ober Moreno, Jeff Duncan, Grant Roberts, Pat roach and Jeff Keppinger.</p>
<p>Baseball screwing itself (translation- Bud selig is screwing baseball),  If they continually allow teams to pee on the rules (recomendations).</p>
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		<title>By: isuzudude</title>
		<link>http://www.metstoday.com/07-08-offseason/2007/argument-against-a-rod/#comment-7804</link>
		<dc:creator>isuzudude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 14:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we're on the topic, I'll give you another name to look up: Adam Walker. 6'7" lefty we acquired in 2001 from Philly in the Wendell/Cook trade. I remember hearing at the time he could be a huge future star, but I see he completely fizzled out after the trade, making just 14 pro appearances before calling it quits in '03. Any news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#8217;re on the topic, I&#8217;ll give you another name to look up: Adam Walker. 6&#8242;7&#8243; lefty we acquired in 2001 from Philly in the Wendell/Cook trade. I remember hearing at the time he could be a huge future star, but I see he completely fizzled out after the trade, making just 14 pro appearances before calling it quits in &#8216;03. Any news?</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://www.metstoday.com/07-08-offseason/2007/argument-against-a-rod/#comment-7776</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He would have been our Joba Chamberlain. Which brings up an interesting point: fans can get all excited about Joba, or a Mike Pelfrey, or a Tim Lincecum, etc. -- but with these extremely high ceiling, high-powered pitchers, who often have violent deliveries that put tremendous stress on their arms, all it takes is one injury and blam! Hot prospect to out of baseball in the blink of an eye. 

So that's why you have to either stockpile plenty of arms -- figuring one or two might work out -- and/or trade away great arms while they're healthy and have value. That's not to say it was a bright idea to trade away Scott Kazmir, but for every Kazmir there are four or five Shane Hawks. Such a crapshoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He would have been our Joba Chamberlain. Which brings up an interesting point: fans can get all excited about Joba, or a Mike Pelfrey, or a Tim Lincecum, etc. &#8212; but with these extremely high ceiling, high-powered pitchers, who often have violent deliveries that put tremendous stress on their arms, all it takes is one injury and blam! Hot prospect to out of baseball in the blink of an eye. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s why you have to either stockpile plenty of arms &#8212; figuring one or two might work out &#8212; and/or trade away great arms while they&#8217;re healthy and have value. That&#8217;s not to say it was a bright idea to trade away Scott Kazmir, but for every Kazmir there are four or five Shane Hawks. Such a crapshoot.</p>
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		<title>By: isuzudude</title>
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		<dc:creator>isuzudude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, dude. Good info. Makes you wonder what could have been if he stayed healthy. Another Billy Wagner in the making?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, dude. Good info. Makes you wonder what could have been if he stayed healthy. Another Billy Wagner in the making?</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Shane Hawk! He was basically the LH version of Philip Hughes, and his presence was probably the secret reason the Mets were OK with trading Scott Kazmir (sorry to bring that up).

As of this time last year, Hawk was still trying to make a comeback from various shoulder surgeries. This from Scout.com:

It has been over two years since talented left-handed hurler Shane Hawk threw a pitch in the Mets farm system. Surgeries to repair two tears in his labrum and another in his rotator cuff before a subsequent surgery prior to the start of the 2006 season has kept him on the shelf, but he's set to resume throwing during Instructs.

I don't have a subscription to Scout but if anyone does, maybe they can give us the rest of the scoop? From what I can tell he did not pitch in 2007, but was placed on the 60-Day DL back in May. He might still be with the organization, as I haven't seen anything about his release. Will try to dig up the scoop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Shane Hawk! He was basically the LH version of Philip Hughes, and his presence was probably the secret reason the Mets were OK with trading Scott Kazmir (sorry to bring that up).</p>
<p>As of this time last year, Hawk was still trying to make a comeback from various shoulder surgeries. This from Scout.com:</p>
<p>It has been over two years since talented left-handed hurler Shane Hawk threw a pitch in the Mets farm system. Surgeries to repair two tears in his labrum and another in his rotator cuff before a subsequent surgery prior to the start of the 2006 season has kept him on the shelf, but he&#8217;s set to resume throwing during Instructs.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a subscription to Scout but if anyone does, maybe they can give us the rest of the scoop? From what I can tell he did not pitch in 2007, but was placed on the 60-Day DL back in May. He might still be with the organization, as I haven&#8217;t seen anything about his release. Will try to dig up the scoop.</p>
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		<title>By: isuzudude</title>
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		<dc:creator>isuzudude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question unrelated to the topic above (sorry, Joe.) Does anyone know what happened to former Met pitching prospect Shane Hawk? I know he was drafted in the 4th round in 2003 and put up some pretty nice numbers while in a relief role at single-A ball in '03 &#38; '04 (WHIP under 1.00, more K's than IP). Unbeknownst to me, after 2004, he never threw another professional pitch in his life. Did he get hurt? Arrested? Killed? Anyone have this answer? Assuming he kept pitching the way he was, certainly by now he would have made a very nice addition to our pigsty of a bullpen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question unrelated to the topic above (sorry, Joe.) Does anyone know what happened to former Met pitching prospect Shane Hawk? I know he was drafted in the 4th round in 2003 and put up some pretty nice numbers while in a relief role at single-A ball in &#8216;03 &amp; &#8216;04 (WHIP under 1.00, more K&#8217;s than IP). Unbeknownst to me, after 2004, he never threw another professional pitch in his life. Did he get hurt? Arrested? Killed? Anyone have this answer? Assuming he kept pitching the way he was, certainly by now he would have made a very nice addition to our pigsty of a bullpen.</p>
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