Mets Game 36: Loss to Cardinals

Cardinals 10 Mets 4

The end of the Mets’ losing streak will have to wait another day. On the bright side, the Mets offense exploded for 6 hits and 4 runs.

Mets Game Notes

Dillon Gee allowed 6 runs (5 earned) on 9 hits and 3 walks, striking out 5, in 4 innings. That sounds awful, yet the SNY crew — both GKR and Bobby Ojeda — attempted to lighten the situation by suggesting that the Cardinals’ three-run first inning might never had happened if only Ike Davis had made a proper throw to second base to initiate a double play. Well, yeah, maybe, but Gee wasn’t exactly mowing down the Redbirds outside of the first — they scored another 3 in the third.

What was curious was Gee’s exit for a pinch-hitter in the top of the fifth. The Mets were down by six by then, Marlon Byrd was on second base with two outs, and Terry Collins sent Ruben Tejada to hit for Gee. Why? Yeah, I get that Gee had already been tagged for 6 runs, but, hey, Gee had already been tagged for 6 runs, and what’s the difference? The game was pretty much gone at that point, and the bullpen is grossly overworked; this was a situation where Gee needed to “take one for the team” and go as long as he could. He had expended 90 pitches at that point, and certainly could have extended to at least 110 — which should have gotten through the fifth, and possibly the sixth. Why Collins was chasing a loss in this spot, instead of saving a much-needed inning or two from the bullpen’s toll, is up for discussion. Did he really believe the Mets had a shot to get back in the game? Did he want to spare Gee any further embarrassment? Did he think Gee couldn’t go at least another inning? While it’s true that the starting rotation (save for Matt Harvey) has been abysmal in terms of eating innings, at least a hint of the bullpen’s overworked state can be blamed on Collins’ gross mismanagement. Saving an inning here and an inning there can make a significant difference over the long term. The problem, however, is that Collins is a lame-duck manager managing for a contract, and trying to extract every possible win he can regardless of long-term consequences. It’s not unlike the approach taken by Jerry Manuel. Hey, I’m all for doing whatever can be done to win a ballgame, but one can’t lose sight of the big picture and long-term effect — and that’s ultimately the difference between average MLB managers and the elite.

What else is there to say? Robert Carson continues to stink, but that’s not news. He’s essentially a step above a BP pitcher. But he has a great personality, good sense of humor, and is well-liked in the clubhouse, so there’s that. I can’t imagine that he makes it through the end of this week on the 25-man roster, but on the other hand, who is there to promote?

Marlon Byrd had a big day, going 2-for-4 with a two-run homer. Again I’m going to state: Byrd will play just well enough to avoid being released.

Mike Baxter failed in his attempt to hit a pinch-hit six-run homer in the ninth, and instead made the last out of the game. If a six-run homer were possible, I bet he would have figured out a way to make it happen.

Old friend Carlos Beltran hit his tenth homer of the year, going 3-for-5 with 4 RBI on the evening. So, I suppose if you want to place someone responsible for this loss by the Mets, you could #BlameBeltran.

Next Mets Game

Game three begins at 8:15 p.m. on Wednesday night. Shaun Marcum faces Shelby Miller.

Joe Janish began MetsToday in 2005 to provide the unique perspective of a high-level player and coach -- he earned NCAA D-1 All-American honors as a catcher and coached several players who went on to play pro ball. As a result his posts often include mechanical evaluations, scout-like analysis, and opinions that go beyond the numbers. Follow Joe's baseball tips on Twitter at @onbaseball and at the On Baseball Google Plus page.
  1. Happy59 May 15, 2013 at 12:21 am
    Once managers start making moves so as “not to lose” rather than to win it’s over…….desperation has gotten control. Joe perhaps your coming around to the idea that Collins needs to go. I noticed the Met announcers during the game mentioning how different the atmosphere appeared around the players…….. Collins intensity and weird moves finally breaking their spirits? I still maintain that there is enough talent on this team to win and be respectable……. with a different manager [and perhaps a general manager].
  2. david May 15, 2013 at 1:37 am
    Bring up Waters or Leather Rocket, send Carson down. they can’t be worse, right?
  3. Wohjr May 15, 2013 at 2:05 am
    Like Francesca said, cut everyone other than wright and Harvey. And I still say we shoulda traded wright last year. I mean how much worse can it get. We are on a slow boat to 68 wins
    • argonbunnies May 15, 2013 at 3:03 am
      I want to say “Poor Wright” but he knew what he was getting into. He chose the comfort and continuity and legacy, and the paycheck, over winning. Well, David, this is what you get. We hope you have better luck finding a way to enjoy it than us fans.
  4. argonbunnies May 15, 2013 at 3:01 am
    Gee’s change-up wasn’t bad, his couple of sliders/cutters were fine, he hung a curve or two but also threw some good ones. The real problem was his fastball. His attempts to hit the inside corner to righties alternated between nearly hitting them in the head to veering down the middle of the plate. Fastball command has been an issue for a while, and it must be corrected.

    That said, on a day when he has no fastball, maybe don’t throw it so much?

    About Gee’s line: in addition to giving up too many walks and a few hard-hit balls, he also got some rotten luck and bad defense behind him. Minus Beltran and Carpenter’s lucky choppers over and between infielders, he gives up 4 runs instead of 6 and likely sticks around for at least another inning. Or, keep the bad luck, but replace Turner with an average SS (to flag down Kozma’s RBI single) and Ike with a good 1B, and you get a similar result. Not that 3 ER in 5 IP is much to be proud of, but it’s a lot less alarming than 5 in 4.

    No idea why Collins didn’t run him out there in the 5th except that maybe his missing fastball command is a red flag that his mechanics are off and his health is at risk. Oh, wait, this is the Mets; why am I trying to come up with a good reason for a move?

    • Izzy May 15, 2013 at 6:54 am
      GEE… wiz. If the Cardinals don’t screw up up the rundown the mighty Mets only get 2. When if s and buts become candy and nuts, what a wonderful team this will be. Wonder who’s fault it is that Turner must play SS when Tejada needs time off? Hmmm.. We all know its not Alderson’s fault. How could he bring in a backup who could play SS. Only bad behind the times GMS do such a horrid thing.
  5. Tommy2cat May 15, 2013 at 5:38 am
    Well, we had a few meaningful games in April…
  6. Izzy May 15, 2013 at 6:50 am
    Hmmmm…. Sandy Alderson brngs uop a guy who can’t pitch because he started Sunday. what is mentioned????. Collins bad decision to let Gee rot for one more innign. what about the GREAT MISTAKE who screwed the team by bringing up a useless piece. Don’t blame Alderson…. You have someone else to blame beside the clown who put together theis horrid group.
  7. Dan B May 15, 2013 at 9:18 am
    is it just me or do teams seem to be getting away from the slap hitting second place hitter and more towards sluugers? Beltran hits second for the Cards. We saw Rollins for the Phillies and Mauer for the Twins in the two spot. I guess teams are relying less on speed and more on slugging pct.
  8. Dan B May 15, 2013 at 9:28 am
    Before the debate about Collins starts, If I was Alderson I would be happy. The more fans talk about Collins the less they are talking about the 40 man roster. Also, whenever Collin’s moves are debated, it appears as if they are just one hit and run from being a contender. If Collins is replaced and they still suck, then it has to be the roster. Makes me think Collins stays as long as possible.
  9. Ms Met May 15, 2013 at 11:40 am
    I totally agree with your assessment. Don’t forget 2 shot arms -familiar/aitchinson thanks to Terry,s panicking/mismanagement of bullpen. I would have liked to see him get a 1 yr extension just to see if he would be managing differently. On summation – Alderson has been a monumental Flop
  10. Ms Met May 15, 2013 at 11:44 am
    It is embarrassing and insulting to think that Alderson could get away with this roster and tell us next year. How about next lifetime