Mets Game 46: Loss to Braves

Braves 6 Mets 0

The Mets are shut out for the third time this year and second time in four games. Remember when they were leading the National League in runs per game?

Mets Game Notes

Dillon Gee stymied the Braves through the first four frames and twice through the lineup. The third time though, was a charm for Atlanta, as they tagged Gee for five runs in the fifth and chased him from the ballgame. The highlight of the inning was a two-run homer by opposing pitcher Mike Minor (his first ever in MLB) — he of the career .074 batting average. The blast seemed to spark his teammates, as it was the second of six straight hits in the inning.

Gee simply wasn’t fooling the Braves any more, and he fell behind 1-0 or 2-0 to five of those six hitters who rapped hits against him that inning. Opponents are hitting close to .500 against him the third time around.

Not that it mattered, since the Mets offense was completely impotent against Braves starter Mike Minor. In 7 1/3 against Minor, the Mets mustered three hits and two walks, and struck out ten times.

Less than an hour after I berated Ruben Tejada‘s inability to drop a bunt, Tejada dropped a bunt for a hit. Nice. But, too late.

Tejada had three hits. One was the bunt, one was an infield single, and one was a fly ball that strangely dropped between two Atlanta outfielders. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than to be good.

Robert Carson took one for the team, providing 2 1/3 garbage innings. After the fifth frame, it appeared as though the Mets just wanted to get the game over with — not much inspiration on the home team’s side was witnessed.

To be honest, I also couldn’t wait for this game to be over. It’s hard to stay interested in a game when it’s obvious that the players aren’t interested. Seemed I wasn’t alone, as the Citi Field stands were fairly empty as of the sixth. Can’t really blame the fans for leaving, considering the weather and the score.

Greg Burke also saw action, and it appears that his release point has been lost again. His arm angle varied between almost under to more toward Sean Green-sidearm, which isn’t a good place for him to be. He did record three strikeouts, but I don’t see that process succeeding over the long haul; those Ks were more about mystery than method.

Daniel Murphy badly misplayed a grounder in the 8th, then kicked the ball, but it was scored a hit. What, exactly, constitutes an error these days.

After getting hit in his first at-bat, Jordany Valdespin was bailing out in his second at-bat. I wonder if these HBPs are getting in his head. I know it was a six-run game, and it was freezing, wet and windy, and it was the last out of the game, but I wasn’t exactly impressed with Valdespin’s effort down the first base line after grounding out. It would be nice to see a young guy fighting for playing time to show a little hustle, you know?

Previous to the 27th out, Ike Davis struck out on three pitches against journeyman David Carpenter, who allowed as many hits in 1 2/3 IP as Minor did in the first 7 1/3.

Interesting point brought up by the FOX crew: the Braves have former / potential All-Stars behind the plate, at 1B, and in LF, and their backup at all three positions — Evan Gattis — also happens to be their RBI leader (actually, his 29 RBI are one less than Freddie Freeman‘s team-leading 30, but you get the idea). You see that kind of talent and depth, and the age of those four players, then look at the Mets, and wonder … hmmm … how will the Flushing futiles ever catch up to the division leaders? And this is before we discuss the pitching staffs and the other five positions on the field.

Did anyone else miss GKR in the booth?

How do you like Andy Martino’s new look?

Next Mets Game

The final game of the series begins at 8:00 p.m. on Sunday night. Shaun Marcum will try again for his first win as a Met against Julio Teheran.

Joe Janish began MetsToday in 2005 to provide the unique perspective of a high-level player and coach -- he earned NCAA D-1 All-American honors as a catcher and coached several players who went on to play pro ball. As a result his posts often include mechanical evaluations, scout-like analysis, and opinions that go beyond the numbers. Follow Joe's baseball tips on Twitter at @onbaseball and at the On Baseball Google Plus page.
  1. NormE May 25, 2013 at 11:14 pm
    Joe,
    I admire your ability to watch. My stomach isn’t strong enough.
    • The King May 26, 2013 at 12:20 am
      The Man clearly either is a masochist or has an inhumanly high pain threshold. There is no other explanation.
  2. Happy59 May 26, 2013 at 1:25 am
    How come we haven’t heard from the Wilpon’s through this debacle of May? One would think that they would do something to show they’re paying attention to the mediocre club they own. You know, say something, fire somebody, rant a little.
    I really don’t understand how an entire team can collapse so completely at the same time. As others have pointed out, you would think that the players would have too much pride to be part of such a collapse and play harder to show what they can do and not be part of the mediocrity.
    In past posts I have stood by the players and have blamed the coaching staff and management. Now i simply don’t know what to think. An umbrella of complacency over the team?
    • Dan B May 26, 2013 at 8:51 am
      Last I read, Jeffy Wilpons and his cousin Scott (oh good, more Wilpons clan!) were busy beating up a soccer team. I get the feeling Jeff is best when he limits his focus to one thing. (He can hire an architect to build a stadium but he can’t decorate it)
      I wonder if Gee’s future is in the bullpen if he can’t fool anyone after they have seen him a few times. I like Gee. I hope he finds a place on this team.
    • Happy59 May 26, 2013 at 11:03 am
      I still firmly believe that the main problem is in the club house and on the field, ie., Collins and his staff…..
      I never thought Collins was the right choice to manage when he was hired, lame-duck status from the beginning……..
      • Joe Janish May 26, 2013 at 11:09 pm
        Happy, I agree that there are problems with the management / coaching staff. However, the “main” problem is that this team has very little MLB talent.
  3. AC Wayne May 26, 2013 at 3:58 am
    Should there be some concern about Gee’s place in the rotation moving forward? He’s now gone 5 inn. or fewer in 5 straight starts. Furthermore, Hefner and Marcum are a combined 0-10. I don’t get it, you would think with guys like Wheeler and Montero breathing down their necks these 3 guys would make sure they execute their pitches every fifth day.
  4. Dan42 May 26, 2013 at 5:40 am
    At this point I firmly believe that we are sentenced to reliving the Met sixties, with a 50 year lag and less entertainment.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_New_York_Mets_season

  5. Joe May 26, 2013 at 7:20 am
    How about the ‘booth’ for the warm-up innings?

    Keith (probably upset about being there on an off day and looking a bit like he was mailing it in), Kevin and some Braves announcer. A columnist suggested the Yanks and Mets mix and match their announcers a bit to liven things up for the pretty strange mid-week subway series.

    I would say leave Gee in for only four innings or something, but he seems to have a bad inning or something even before the third time thru. Guess Minor couldn’t have had much more of a better day. Twitter suggested there was a lot of garbage in the outfield to go along with all that garbage time.

    • Izzy May 26, 2013 at 9:43 am
      There is announcer sharing. The O’s/Nats have been sharing since they started playing each other but they are joint owners of MASN/MASN2 so its easy. But you can hear ex Met announcer Gary Thorne! The Pirates and Red Sox shared announcers in Spring Training. Does Root and NESN have a cortporate partnership? Don’t know. Don’t see it NY. The Mets and Phillies swicxhed analysts once or twice a few years ago. Can’t see YES placing Mets on equal footing.
  6. Stan in NH May 26, 2013 at 8:37 am
    I never thought I’d be nostalgic for that great 2012 team.

    I subscribe to MLB so I can get the Mets games on my satellite service. Looks like I threw out some money this year since I can’t bring myself to watch these disasters.

  7. Dan B May 26, 2013 at 7:21 pm
    hey Happy, let’s say the Mets fired collins this off season and replaced with a top manager. How many more wins do think they would have? Personally, I think it would be four or five more wins.
    • Happy59 May 26, 2013 at 7:42 pm
      Dan B,
      Why wait to the off season? A new manager doesn’t have to be a “top flight manager”. Just someone who can work with younger players and can motivate them without them thinking that one miscue will send them to the bench or be glared at by the angry faced Collins, he never smiles or even looks relaxed. Players pick up on that and either retreat or decide it doesn’t matter what they do, he’s just too hard to please.
      Neither Randolph, Manual or Collins neither liked nor seemed to get along with younger players nor could they deal effectively with the “prima donna’s” they signed. Players would neither wanted to lead, but they also wouldn’t assist those who tried to lead and motivate. There are individuals out there who could manage this club and win.
      I would suggest at least 10-15 more wins with the right managerial choice and dumping these over-rated veteran pitchers they keep signing from the waiver wire, or nobody else wants, bring up the youngsters, let them pitch.
      • Izzy May 26, 2013 at 8:29 pm
        No offense Happy, but you are living a baseball fantasy if you think this team wins with another manager. Most of the players suck. The talent level ain’t on Collins. Was he a horrible manager for half a year last year when they overachieved? Was he a different person? Until you get rid of the guy who brings in players or doesn’t move players out, you can have any manager you want and you will not win. I agree Collins is frustrating but when you have a shit product and a front office leaving you in limbo you feel you have to try to win and Collins decided old bums give him a better chance than kids who need to develop.
      • TexasGusCC May 26, 2013 at 8:53 pm
        Happy, why not state the obvious? Collins makes excuses for his favorites. No accountability for not making the right play, there’s always an excuse for lack of execution. So, when they have a lawyer defending their brain locks, they don’t have incentive to focus.
    • DaveSchneck May 26, 2013 at 9:17 pm
      Gentlemen,
      Collins will never be going to the HOF based on his managerial prowess, and he has not had a good season by any means, but l find it hard to believe he has cost the team 4 to 5 games already. This is the same manager that managed Reyes to a batting title and Dickey to a Cy Young. Beltran gave him credit for keeping him on the field (and able to return Wheeler in a trade). This team lacks MLB talent. That is on the GM, not the manager. Backman can’t change that, LaRussa can’t change that. They need better players…about 20.
      • Joe Janish May 26, 2013 at 11:13 pm
        Agreed. I think there are at least 7-10 players who the Mets could release outright and would not be picked up on another 25-man roster. They regularly have multiple players in the starting lineup who are “25th” men AT BEST.
        • TexasGusCC May 26, 2013 at 11:31 pm
          Perfectly said Joe. Alserson has these guys on the team, but Collins starts them. My view is Collins is more troublesome because Alderson is trying to field a team from Goodwill, but they don’t necessarily have to get the lion’s share of the playing time.
      • Happy59 May 27, 2013 at 4:00 am
        How can you give Collins credit for Reyes and Dickey? Reyes hit his way to a title and Dickey pitched his way to an award. To me both players did well DESPITE Collins’ ineffectual managing. Beltran was a prima donna who refused to lead and also refused to help someone else to lead, the dugout was rather polarized with Beltran. I was pleased to see him traded.

        Murphy is streaky, but a good hitter and a passable 2nd baseman, getting better every day

        Wright is steady and reliable when he is not trying to carry the whole team

        Duda is uncomfortable in left field and his hitting mirrors that

        Ankiel is playing for a trade in July

        Buck is back to normal hitting stats, a good catcher

        Tejada, why hitting 230 when he hit 290 last year?

        Davis is just plain bedeviled right now, the talent we have seen, hopefully it will break out again, he hasn’t been the same since the Wright collision.

        Baxter hasn’t been the player he was before his injury saving Santana’s no-hitter.

        Byrd is comparable to Hairston,

        Turner seems to hit better off the bench and spot starts, not when he plays everyday [last weekend]

        Valdispin has spark and talent, his energy needs to be directed towards a team concept rather than self-aggrandizement

        Lagares doesn’t get to play every day to find out what he can really do, the acquisition of Ankiel squashed his chances

        Pitchers are a mixed bag of aging vets, mediocre pitchers nobody else wants, youngsters who just need solid instruction from a quality pitching instructor and time on the mound learning. Bring up more youngsters, let them pitch and learn.