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January 14, 2011 10-11 Offseason Joe Janish

Mets Sniffing Around Young, Bush

Get your mind out of the gutter.

Not sure how you interpreted that headline, but I read at MetsBlog that the Mets are interested in pitchers Chris Young and David Bush.

You already know my stance on Young; despite his intelligence and degree from Princeton, I’m not convinced that a) he’ll be healthy; and b) if healthy, he’ll be all that great. I have also mentioned Bush before, suggesting that he’s unspectacular but is healthy, cheap, takes the ball every five days, and would likely keep D.J. Carrasco in the bullpen and Tobi Stoner in AAA — both of which are good things.

Although both of these hurlers have been discussed here before, this is the first time MetsToday has put Young / Bush on display in the same post. That said, I’m curious to hear your thoughts: do you like Young / Bush? Why or why not?

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Joe Janish began MetsToday in 2005 to provide the unique perspective of a high-level player and coach -- he earned NCAA D-1 All-American honors as a catcher and coached several players who went on to play pro ball. As a result his posts often include mechanical evaluations, scout-like analysis, and opinions that go beyond the numbers. Follow Joe's baseball tips on Twitter at @onbaseball and at the On Baseball Google Plus page.
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  1. Ham Man January 14, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    You trying to get fired, Joe?
    Considering the other internet page I have open right now, I cannot hide my interest in Young/Bush.
  2. Joe Janish January 14, 2011 at 10:48 pm
    I doubt I’ll get fired. My boss also likes — and enjoys watching — Young / Bush.
  3. Jay January 14, 2011 at 11:06 pm
    Not what I was expecting but since I’m here…

    Neither candidate is particularly inspiring but I don’t see the upside potential in Young that warrants the injury risk over the more steadily available Bush for the back of the rotation especially when the Mets have such little rotation depth to begin with.

    • Joe Janish January 14, 2011 at 11:17 pm
      Agreed 100%. Young MIGHT be as good as a #3 or possibly a #2 but more likely he’ll be horrific and cause the Mets to scramble for another arm. With Bush, they can more or less count on him to take the ball and be like Steve Trachsel was in ’06. There’s more value than many believe for a pitcher who can give you 32 starts and 170 innings; it takes a load off the minor league system and bullpen. One look at the Mets’ 2006 #5 starters is a prime example (Pelfrey, Lima, Gonzalez, etc.)
      • mrtasan January 14, 2011 at 11:32 pm
        i dunno why steve trachsel got such a bad rap…he was effective and ate up a lot of innings…

        didn’t he get divorced or something during the NLCS’s which is why he sucked in his last game as a met? gotta cut that guy some slack. he brought more positives than negatives to the mets.

        i think we shouldn’t get our hopes up over minor signings…and maybe hope for some possible trades…boy i wish teams made more trades

  4. Kenny January 14, 2011 at 11:08 pm
    Young/Bush is probably cheaper and more motivated than their higher priced competition. Their performance may be lacking in some respects, but who cares when you’ve got an army of Davidoffs to tell everyone their hot stuff?

    Plus, if it’s cheap and easy to acquire, Sandy Alderson is all over it! Moneyball, right?

  5. Kenny January 14, 2011 at 11:09 pm
    *They’re not their.

    Yeesh! I’d never be allowed to work in the front office with errors like that. Or do they speak in binary?

    • Joe Janish January 14, 2011 at 11:18 pm
      Actually you were right the first time (their).

      Or, if you want the Fantasy Front Office to understand your statement:

      00100101001110001010010000010101010100010010110

  6. veryfakebr January 14, 2011 at 11:10 pm
    HEY WAREZ THE PICS? U SHOULD DO A SLIDESHOW ON DIS TOPICS.
    • Joe Janish January 14, 2011 at 11:20 pm
      There IS a slideshow … is it not appearing on your computer? You must have a firewall or some kind of “safe browsing” thing installed. Happens all the time when I post pics of Young/Bush.
  7. CatchDog January 15, 2011 at 9:57 am
    I think I saw the title of this thread engraved on a pillow somewhere…
  8. Bohnjetz January 15, 2011 at 10:56 pm
    Any of these pitchers would be worth their salary if they lasted half a year. Like Brad Penny last year for the Cards.