Should He Stay Or Should He Go?

With pundits and fans everywhere arguing their position on Willie Randolph, that old Clash song “Should I Stay Or Should I Go” is frighteningly relevant these days.

The Clash Combat RockFor the youngins’ , here are part of the lyrics:

Always tease tease tease
You’re happy when I’m on my knees
One day is fine, next day is black
So if you want me off your back
Well come on and let me know
Should I stay or should I go?

Though, I think some of the lines above would be sung by we fans, as the Mets seem to be “teasing” us lately, with one game fine but the next one “black”.

And then, there’s a part where the song alternates with lyrics in Spanish — and I can almost hear Carlos Delgado (another man many are undecided about) doing those parts:

This indecision’s bugging me
Esta indecision me molesta
If you don’t want me, set me free
Si no me quieres, librame ….
Should I stay or should I go?

As you know, I’m not blaming Willie for the Mets’ current record — nor am I congratulating him for it, either. I’m not convinced there’s a manager out there who would be a better fit and/or lead this team to more victories. There are more problems with the Mets beyond Willie’s control — many which were not addressed during the offseason and were pointed out here all winter (i.e., starting pitching depth, a RH bat, the downward spiral of Carlos Delgado, etc.).

On the one hand,

Mark Healey at Gotham Baseball agrees that Wilie should stay,

Sure, it’d be nice if Randolph was a more adept technician, especially when it comes to the pitching staff. Isn’t his pitching coach supposed to be the best in all of baseball? Oh, and in case that’s read as a call for Rick Peterson’s head, I’m simply stating a fact that there’s plenty of blame to go around.

Yes, Randolph has chinks in his armor, but so does his team.

On the other hand, John Peterson makes some good points stating why Willie should go:

The play is lackadaisical. Willie says chill-ax. The Mets act like they don’t care if they win or lose, because they still get paid in the end. And even the most crushing failure—missing the playoffs last year—results in no punishment for anyone, not even the manager, who heaps the blame on the players and takes a pat on the back from the front office.

Right, that was last year. But what has changed from one year to the next? Are the Mets destroying their opponents left and right? Are they playing with a fire not seen since the Valentine years of the late 90’s? Is there an evident determination in their hearts? Is there a sense of destiny, a rightful taking of what is theirs? There is not.

Should Willie stay or should he go? The fact the question is out there only 30 games into the season is troublesome, because unless / until the Mets go on a crazy hot streak and start running away with the NL East title, the question will linger like a black cloud above Willie’s head for the next 130 games. That will make for one weary summer — for all of us.

Esta indecision me molesta.

Joe Janish began MetsToday in 2005 to provide the unique perspective of a high-level player and coach -- he earned NCAA D-1 All-American honors as a catcher and coached several players who went on to play pro ball. As a result his posts often include mechanical evaluations, scout-like analysis, and opinions that go beyond the numbers. Follow Joe's baseball tips on Twitter at @onbaseball and at the On Baseball Google Plus page.
  1. RockStar78 May 7, 2008 at 9:32 am
    One thing that can be assured: If the Mets fail to make the playoffs, Willie is gone.
  2. Micalpalyn May 7, 2008 at 10:39 am
    As a Clash fan with ‘the sory of the clash’ currently in my car CD changer, I’d like to point out that SEVERAL tracks could be applied to this post!!

    consider: (a fav of mine) go straight to hell, overpowered by funk, even Rock the Casbah

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Rock

  3. debmc May 7, 2008 at 11:42 am
    Hey, Mic – maybe it’s time for a “White Riot…” lol

    I am constantly digging out The Story of The Clash. I think it’s one of the best CD collection released in at least the last 10 years or so.

  4. Micalpalyn May 7, 2008 at 4:52 pm
    What can I add to this post ?

    Essentially I have a question and some rhetoric to go with it. When would be a good time TO fire a manger?

    I am not sure The Mets have ever done it right. I think the Dallas Green fire-Bobby V hire was OK timing wise. But that was an exception. In citing precedence, i think (recent past) of the houston change (Jimmy Key fired) in 2004 and the Marlins (Torborg fired) in 2003. In both cases the teams made the playoffs.

    Again I think ala the previously mindless Dodgers and Cubs, this team needs a new head.

    Unlike Rockstar I think this could happen by game 60 particularly if this team is at or about .500.

    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-6990038.html
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/astros/2004-07-14-williams-fired_x.htm
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2003/0511/1552112.html

  5. isuzudude May 7, 2008 at 5:18 pm
    can we wait until the team is 10 games out of 1st place or 10 games under .500 before we’re marching Willie off to the guillotine? good lord.