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April 19, 2011 Mets Injuries Joe Janish

Bobby Parnell Injured?

After the Mets – Astros game, manager Terry Collins mentioned in the postgame that Bobby Parnell is “feeling some discomfort”. Where, when and why we have no idea, though we do know Hu.

Hopefully we’ll have more info soon. This is NOT good news for a Mets pitching staff that is already decimated by injuries and ineffectiveness.

*** UPDATE ***

According to MetsBlog.com, Parnell has numbness in his middle finger and having difficulty gripping the baseball. What does this mean? I’m really not sure, but I imagine it’s something that could be a warning sign for an elbow issue. Glad to hear that he spoke up and is going to get this checked out.

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  1. Walnutz15 April 19, 2011 at 11:26 pm
    Met spin: “numbness in his finger.”

    Reality: Parnell still has no idea how to pitch, they will need a roster spot for Bay’s return, and they can send him down to work with an actual pitching coach.

    Anyone still think Warthen’s “awesome” based on last year’s anomoly?

    …..didn’t think so.

  2. Mic April 19, 2011 at 11:32 pm
    So dfa on Boyer really looks bad now
    • Izzy April 20, 2011 at 6:49 am
      DFAing Boyer will never look bad. Having him make the team out of the gate is what was bad.
  3. xDanTanna April 19, 2011 at 11:33 pm
    Think along the lines of needing to make a roster move here. This makes it easy for them to put him on DL & activate Bay tomorrow or on thursday. Thats what I feel anyways.

    Now I head off to work angry. Nobody better mess w/ me tonight or they are going away. lol cheerio

    • Joe Janish April 19, 2011 at 11:47 pm
      Normally I’m on board with the conspiracy theories and though this one does hold weight, I’m skeptical. Parnell’s command has been terrible despite velocity near what it should be, and that is almost always due to an elbow / finger issue. Think back to when Aaron Heilman was being abused and eventually lost his command and stunk despite still hitting 95+ on the gun … at the end of the year he went to the Dr. to get the elbow cleaned up.

      Generally speaking … signficant loss in velocity = shoulder issue; significant loss in command = elbow issue.

      If I’m Parnell I’m getting a bucket full of rice and doing the Steve Carlton exercises (which every pitcher should do, BTW).

  4. Joe April 20, 2011 at 7:23 am
    The reference to Heilman … I’m not sure how Parnell was really ever overworked, but his inconsistency mixed with his “promise” does remind me of him. In a bad way. I also don’t really buy any conspiracy theory. As to the cost to the staff, his inconsistency makes me wonder how much we really are losing. He was directly involved with causing what three games to be out of reach. Others can do that.
    • Joe Janish April 20, 2011 at 9:38 am
      I wasn’t comparing Parnell to Heilman in terms of workload; only bringing up Heilman as an example of someone who kept his velocity up despite an injury. Many people (MLB managers and coaches included) think that if a pitcher’s velocity is where it’s supposed to be, then an injury is unlikely.

      I can kind of see how Parnell might remind you of Heilman in terms of promise unfulfilled, except, Heilman actually pitched very effectively out of the bullpen for a few years; at one point many considered him one of the top setup men in baseball — whereas, Parnell has yet to come near that status.

      • Joe April 20, 2011 at 10:39 am
        Okay. That’s fair though I wasn’t really trying to fully compare the two. They are clearly different in some ways.

        As to Heilman, I guess I’m not fully remembering things, since he never seemed that reliable, even if he was better than Parnell. By the end, especially when the closer was hurt and they needed him to be consistent for just a month, he was just aggravating.

        • Joe Janish April 20, 2011 at 11:06 am
          From 2005 through most of 2007, Heilman was lights-out. Which was why he was grossly over-used and as a result, became less effective in ’08.
        • Joe April 20, 2011 at 12:39 pm
          Okay. I am thinking full career. His starter numbers were mixed at best and at the time, any push to make him a full time starter (as he wanted) was seen by many reporters as wrong.

          The fact he was ideal in the bullpen only underlines the point. Overall, his 2005-7 (only part of 2005 was in relief) numbers are impressive, but though it’s hard to tell if this means he was “lights out” since they are averages.

          I’ll readily admit that hindsight might be coloring my sentiments some. Always does.

  5. Keith April 20, 2011 at 9:52 am
    I agree with this being a backhanded roster move – Parnell’s injury could probably be called “Suckitis.”

    He was getting ahead in the count and then throwing meatballs right down the plate. It’s how he’s pitched every time I’ve seen him. I don’t even want to comment on his ability to give up a run without throwing a pitch. Collins has to be getting real impatient…

    Does anyone else think he should have just left Ryota in? At point your bullpen sucks so much, that playing the matchups doesn’t matter much.

  6. Walnutz15 April 20, 2011 at 9:57 am
    Unrelated: but you can take your pick of literally,dozens of lesser Met pitchers who got more of a shot in recent rotations than Heilman ever got with the Mets.

    Pretty comical.