Mets Game 128: Loss To Tigers

Tigers 11 Mets 3

The final score does not reflect the fact that this was a really close game until the top of the ninth. But it does reflect the fact the Mets are now one dozen games below .500.

Mets Game Notes

Dillon Gee pitched fairly well — all things considered — holding the mighty Tigers to four runs despite allowing a dozen baserunners (10 hits, 2 walks) in six innings. Like Matt Harvey the night before, one would have thought Detroit would score more with so many baserunners, but most of their hits were singles and they don’t run the bases very well. As far as the boxscore goes, it wasn’t a great performance by Gee, but he threw pretty much his typical game — staying on the edges of the plate, teasing hitters with the change-up and slider, dropping in an occasional 12-6 curveball, and using those three pitches to set up the fastball. He made a few mistakes, and two of them were sent over the fence. That’s been Gee’s strategy this year, and it works well against NL lineups. Against one of the best lineup in MLB, it’s OK — just good enough to give his team a fighting chance.

LaTroy Hawkins and Scott Atchison did not pitch well, combining to allow seven runs on seven hits and a walk in the final frame.

Travis d’Arnaud clubbed his second MLB hit — and first career homerun — to give the Mets a 3-2 lead and soil Gary Cohen’s shorts. It was a towering blast into the left-field party deck on a pretty decent sinker running down in.

Is Andy Dirks officially a Met killer?

Terrible fundies by Victor Martinez on a ball in the dirt in the 8th that allowed Lucas Duda to advance to third base. It was a straightforward pitch in the dirt over the middle of the plate and should have been easily blocked and smothered. But, Martinez tried to backhand it and turned his head to the right and it skipped past him. A catcher should never, ever turn his/her head — the protection is in front of your face, first of all, and second of all, you need to see where the ball goes after it hits you. Second, a catcher should only backhand as a last resort, and if it is far outside the plate. It was only the second time Martinez was behind the plate in two years. I wasn’t necessarily surprised to see V-Mart back there during the game, but a bit surprised he wasn’t removed late in the game and particularly when Bruce Rondon — a very hard thrower — came in. I supposed he remained because of the slim, one-run lead the Tigers held; Detroit manager Jim Leyland didn’t want to lose his bat if the game became tied or went into extras.

During the broadcast, Gary and Keith Hernandez spoke at length about the Mets’ organizational philosophy of developing and acquiring hitters who have good strike-zone discipline, high on-base percentages, and can hit home runs. It was presented as though this was something new and edgy, or if the Mets were one of the only teams with such designs. But beyond that, it didn’t seem like an appropriate discussion for a team that is 24th in MLB in OBP, 27th in slugging percentage, and 24th in homeruns. I’m too lazy to do the math, but my guess is those rankings are only as high as they are due to David Wright — who is unlikely to return in 2013.

There was a Lucas Duda sighting in this ballgame; he walked as a pinch-hitter.

Next Mets Game

The Mets start a series with the Phillies on Monday at 7:10 PM. Zack Wheeler faces Cliff Lee.

Joe Janish began MetsToday in 2005 to provide the unique perspective of a high-level player and coach -- he earned NCAA D-1 All-American honors as a catcher and coached several players who went on to play pro ball. As a result his posts often include mechanical evaluations, scout-like analysis, and opinions that go beyond the numbers. Follow Joe's baseball tips on Twitter at @onbaseball and at the On Baseball Google Plus page.
  1. murph August 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm
    Yup, close game up until the 9th. But Detroit is a team much more capable of putting together a big inning. It was a matter of time.

    As exciting as the Mets have been recently, they still can’t play with the big boys, getting swept by the Dodgers & Tigers.

    Gary was wondering why they brought up Duda now since they already have 2 first basemen. Well they would have the same question if they waited for a September call-up. At least now he can DH against Cleveland, and is also an upgrade over Baxter as lefty PH.

  2. DanB August 25, 2013 at 10:57 pm
    At least the Mets can sleep at night knowing they didn’t give out big contracts like the Tigers did to Cabrera, Fielder, and Verlander. Stupid Tigers for spending a lot of money.
    • Joe Janish August 26, 2013 at 12:26 am
      Yeah, when are MLB owners gonna wake up and realize you can’t buy a pennant?
  3. MIC August 26, 2013 at 3:28 am
    I cant see who will pitch in Sptember. Syndergard, Montero are all on pitch limits as is Harvey and Wheeler. Will they get 5innings and no more?

    _ I like Dice-K, always have. I hope he gets a one year contract and Spring training invite ala Capuano.

  4. DanB August 26, 2013 at 6:49 am
    Joe, did you noticed that Tiger fans don’t like the team buying players? 38,000 show up every home game to protest.
  5. DanB August 26, 2013 at 3:45 pm
    Harvey to DL. Tear in his elbow. This definitely sucks.
    • Joe Janish August 26, 2013 at 4:17 pm
      Can’t say I’m entirely surprised.

      Did anyone read my Game 127 postgame?

      http://www.metstoday.com/8791/mets-2013-games/mets-game-127-loss-to-tigers/

      • Jon C August 26, 2013 at 8:21 pm
        I can’t express my anger in words right now. How come Joe FREAKING Janish (all due respect Joe) can figure this out but not a single !(@#^$*^ person in the mets organization can see this coming. Why he wasn’t shut down as soon as he had this pain is mind boggling. What a joke of an organization we have…I might sound like just another ahole on the internet, and I usually don’t rage like this, but I would fire every goddamn person involved in making the decision to let him continue pitching
        • Joe Janish August 26, 2013 at 11:43 pm
          No offense taken, Jon, and I’m with you — Harvey was the singular reason to watch the Mets this year, and I was greatly excited to watch him develop. Now? Hard to hold back the anger and frustration.

          The offensive thing is not that I can figure this stuff out, but that most MLB people continue to believe that they know better than scientists — just because they played Organized Ball / are “in the club.”

          Wake up, jackasses! Your way ain’t workin’!

  6. argonbunnies August 26, 2013 at 6:52 pm
    “Harvey said he had been experiencing forearm tenderness for a month or two” and the Mets didn’t consider taking the time to address this in a lost season? Are they not aware that virtually every TJ surgery is preceded by complaints of forearm tightness/tenderness? Apparently they felt that sticking with the “+30 innings” heuristic was all the thought they had to give the matter of Harvey’s health.

    When it comes to medical treatment, something in the chain between players and trainers and coaches and GMs and owners has been broken in this franchise for as long as I can remember. Is Ray Ramirez afraid to tell management about injuries for fear he’ll lose the players’ support? Is Collins afraid to speak because he doesn’t want to lose more games if his talent hits the DL? Or is Alderson duly apprised of all medical matters, and is simply stupid?

    I mean, if Mets fans had known that Harvey was pitching hurt, we’d have gladly ended his 2013 season to make sure he’d be here for 2014. But no, the Mets decided to squeeze out a few more wins and crowds in 2013, in hopes of finishing with some momentum, and it backfired. The only momentum we’ll now take into the offseason is knowing the Mets are the same joke they’ve been since 2007, a team perpetually dumber than its fans.

    I wasn’t really expecting this team to contend until 2016 anyway, but this pretty much assures it. Harvey will miss 2014, and spend 2015 re-learning how to pitch while monitored by pitch and innings limits. Maybe in 2016 he’ll get back to where he was in 2013, but there’s no guarantee (see Strasburg; he’s still good, but nowhere near the guy who debuted in 2010).

    • Joe Janish August 26, 2013 at 11:48 pm
      This is exactly why I cannot, and will not, “root” for the Mets presently — because selling tickets and remaining relevant far outweighs every other aspect of the organization, even to the extent of harming the players.

      I could almost — ALMOST — understand pushing Harvey if the team was in the midst of a pennant race. But in a lost season? Seriously?

      Maybe the most ridiculous and offensive news was that Sandy Alderson did not immediately announce that Harvey would be shut down for the season. Is/was there really a question? All about positive public relations — don’t want people to think maybe September games would be completely meaningless.

      For all the people who condemned Omar Minaya and applauded the installation of Alderson because “finally there would be a grownup in the room” — what do you have to say now?

      Alderson’s not stupid — he just assumes that Mets fans are, and that’s even worse. And likely, he’s not in charge. It’s still, and always will be, Jeffy’s toy.