Hot Stove Preseason Predictions

The World Series is not yet over, but already there are a slew of mixed messages coming from the media in regard to the Mets.

For example, the Mets ARE after Manny, but the Mets are NOT after Manny.The Mets ARE after K-Rod, yet the Mets are NOT after K-Rod. Derek Lowe doesn’t want to play on the East Coast, Derek Lowe’s preference is to sign with Boston. Jake Peavy hates New York, Jake Peavy would agree to go to New York. The Mets will sign a closer, the Mets will trade for a closer, the Mets will fill the closer role from within. Luis Castillo will be traded, Luis Castillo is untradeable.

Welcome to the Hot Stove Preseason!

Here are my vague predictions:

1. The Mets will not get K-Rod, C.C. Sabathia, nor Ben Sheets, but will nonetheless overpay to bring in pitching.

2. The Mets will not have the goods to trade for Matt Holliday, Jake Peavy, Garrett Atkins, nor any other big-name star on the market.

3. The Mets will wind up unloading Luis Castillo for garbage, and eating most of his salary.

4. The Mets will either trade Aaron Heilman for garbage, or announce that he will compete for the closer role.

5. The Mets will fail to protect an MLB-ready position player, and lose him in the Rule 5 draft.

6. If they don’t trade Castillo and sign Orlando Hudson, the Mets will sign Ray Durham to compete with Castillo at 2B.

7. At least one former Expo will be signed as a free agent.

8. The Mets will make a trade with the Dodgers.

9. Brian Fuentes, K-Rod, and Oliver Perez will sign very late — within a few weeks of spring training.

10. If Ollie doesn’t sign with the Mets, he will sign with either the Yankees, Rangers, or a California team.

Please note, I take no responsibility whatsoever if any of these predictions ring true — or false. Most of them are based on pure guesswork. At least one or two have some “inside” substance behind them, but I refuse to say which ones.

More rumors coming soon !

Joe Janish began MetsToday in 2005 to provide the unique perspective of a high-level player and coach -- he earned NCAA D-1 All-American honors as a catcher and coached several players who went on to play pro ball. As a result his posts often include mechanical evaluations, scout-like analysis, and opinions that go beyond the numbers. Follow Joe's baseball tips on Twitter at @onbaseball and at the On Baseball Google Plus page.
  1. Schmidtxc October 28, 2008 at 11:49 am
    I’d bet pretty soon you start to hear the mets mentioned with magglio ordonez…
  2. Micalpalyn October 28, 2008 at 12:10 pm
    I think mags is a doable. But there are alot of rumors right now. Who knows what can happen.

    A. I think this roster re-make has me scared. I see a team that EASILY should be sitting in the Phils spot if not for injuries to Maine and wags. BUT alot of non-contributors (wise-alou-El duque-to some extent Pedro) are FA and throw in sho and we have room to flex some money.

    B. IF the Mets were dealing from strength, I think trade proposals for Wright might be considered. Remember Evans and Murphy are natural 3rd basemen too. could Murphy go to 3rd, allowing a trade for Matt Holiday and Jeff Francis? …just throwin a discussion out there. I mean, who could you import at SS? Furcal…. If you did you could really build around the pieces obtain for Jose, with Wilmer and ruben Tejada on the horizon.

    C. Scott Olsen is also mentioned. What if HE were recruited from the Fish.

    D. at catcher I want Benji Molina.

    E. BP: I see Affeldt and Fuentes as my primary targets.

  3. joe October 28, 2008 at 12:57 pm
    1. I don’t see how a trade for any significant, established position player or pitcher is possible. The Mets have no movable personnel of value other than Delgado and Church.

    2. Injuries are part of the game. The Mets were DAMN LUCKY not have more injuries — i.e., to Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Delgado. The Phils suffered a ton of injuries throughout the season. This idea that the Mets didn’t make the playoffs because of injuries is bunk.

    3. The Mets will never trade David Wright. Never. As in, “not ever”. If you want to deal away a position player, Beltran makes the most sense because of his age and value. But he’s not going anywhere, either.

    4. The Fish will be interesting to watch. Will this be another tear down?

    5. I-Rod will come without giving up personnel and be a similar player to Bengie.

    6. Affeldt = Scho. Fuentes = lefthanded Looper

  4. Schmidtxc October 28, 2008 at 1:18 pm
    I really don’t think mags will cost that much…If the mets are willing to eat his salary I bet they could get him for next to nothing. I honestly think he might be the cheapest option out there for a corner guy taking years and draft picks into consideration. If not him, I’d like to see a run made for juan rivera.

    I hope the mets target juan cruz, jeremy affeldt, and derek lowe as free agent targets. All 3 are decent pitchers, and none should require a ton of money or years. If they do, move on…

    As much as I like ollie, I see boras looking for a bigger contract than he should be given. If only there was a way to sign good ollie…although I think whoever signs him will end up with bad ollie for most of the contract.

    Reading some dodger blogs, I think they want to get rid of andruw more than we want to be rid of castillo. I doubt that trade happens, but I would love to see it done.

    If we’re going to make a deal and give up some talented youngsters, why not talk to texas about one of their young catchers who could be stashed at aaa for 1 more season? I’d give up more for Teagarden than for any of the closers mentioned. I like max ramirez as well.

  5. joe October 28, 2008 at 1:40 pm
    Schmidt:

    Ordonez went 21 HR/103 RBI/.317 AVG / .376 OBP. The Tigers are not interested in trading him — a Detroit writer conjured up a “what if” situation to build a story (like Mike Francesa proposing that the Mets trade D-Wright). If the Tigers did trade Magglio, they’d want players to fill their needs — preferably a young catcher and a young reliever. They’re not going to take Joe Smith and Brian Schneider, for example. Though the Rangers might have the pieces they’d be interested in — like you, I also like Teagarden and Max Ramirez. But again, who do the Mets have that would interest the Rangers? There’s a better chance of prying away Gerald Laird (a move I advocated here last year, when his stock was lower), but even Laird would require parting with Jon Niese at minimum. Would he be that much of an upgrade to be worth it?

    The Dodgers are definitely looking to dump Jones, as well as Pierre, to make a run for Manny. However if Manny wants too much, they will bank on Jones making a comeback. I’d love a Castillo-Jones swap.

    BTW Derek Lowe’s agent is also Scott Boras. New York is not a place he will consider unless he is overpaid. He’s going to have plenty of suitors.

  6. isuzudude October 28, 2008 at 3:02 pm
    I don’t know enough of the Magglio rumors to comment on their validity, but I can say that it would be nice to see him in LF at Citi Field next year…and not as a visiting player.

    The Mets have been quoted and the general consensus is that neither KRod nor Fuentes will be heavily courted by the Mets. And can you blame Omar? He’s already got more than a lion’s share of cash earmarked for Billy Wagner, who’s going to be nothing more than dead weight on the roster in 2009. I realize the pieces might not match up perfectly, but it seems much more realistic that Omar targets one of the “available” closers via trade this winter – Putz, Street, BJ Ryan, Kevin Gregg, etc.

    The chances of trading Wright or Reyes are 0.01%. It’s not even worth discussing. Beltran is probably about 10%, as he would have to waive a no trade clause and the Mets would want to get a huge package in return. I agree with Joe that it seems like the only valuable parts to trade are Church and Delgado, although I’m sure plenty of teams would inquire about Murphy, Parnell, Niese, Heilman, Feliciano, Joe Smith, and a handful of prospects in the right package.

    However, regarding injuries, the Phillies hardly had any this year, Joe, although you beg to differ. Rollins was out for a month early in the season, and Tom Gordon missed most of the year, but who else are you referring to when you say the Phils “suffered a ton of injuries?” I’m not saying the injuries prevented the Mets from making the postseason, but if you want to have a contest, the Mets would win in the injury bug department by a landslide. Losing Wagner would be like losing Lidge. Losing Maine would be like losing Blanton. Losing Tatis would be like losing Werth. Losing Church for as long as we did would be like losing Burrell. Not to mention Castillo, Easley, Alou, El Duque, Wise, Castro, Schneider, Pedro, and Pagan were all out for stretches., Can you come up with that significant of a list for the Phils? Not even close. And if you take away that many impact players from the Phils this year I doubt they’re making it to within one win of a world series win.

    On a final note, why are we so hesitant to consider trading Castillo for Pierre? He’s a 31 year old, decent fielder who is never hurt, steals 40+ bases, hits .290-ish, and never strikes out. Batting him 2nd behind Reyes would be incredible. Yeah, we said the same thing about Castillo, too, but Pierre is much more in the thick of his prime than Castillo is. And Pierre is definitely overpriced, but so is Castillo. The contracts are virtually a wash. I think we should be more open to the idea of trading for Juan Pierre than we have been.

  7. joe October 28, 2008 at 4:04 pm
    I thought we already had the injury argument, but here goes again.

    Phillies lost, at one point or another: Geoff Jenkins, Pedro Feliz, Jimmy Rollins, Jayson Werth, Shane Victorino, Tom Gordon, Brad Lidge, Rudy Seanez. They also lost, for about the entire season, Francisco Rosario and Scott Mathieson, who would have been key bullpen contributors, Mike Zagurski, a pitcher who might have contributed, and Chris Snelling, who compares to Angel Pagan (fourth/fifth OF). They also sent their #2 starter Brett Myers to the minors.

    Let’s do a comparison, which you are free to argue:

    Myers = Maine; Gordon+Lidge = Wagner; Mathieson = Wise; Werth+Victorino=Church; Snelling=Pagan; Feliz = Castillo; Rosario = Pedro; Seanez = ? ; Rollins = Tatis?

    There are those who will argue that the Mets were better off having Castillo on the DL. It can also be argued that if not for Church going down, Tatis would not have had the opportunity to play in July. Further, I don’t think the injuries to Schneider/Castro had a tremendous impact on the team.

    As far as the Mets amassing more injuries to ineffectual players — i.e., Marlon Anderson, Trot Nixon, Jason Vargas, et al — yeah, they “win”. But I don’t think the impact of the injuries the Mets suffered were much different from the Phillies. Certainly not a “landslide”.

    Regarding Pierre, why don’t we just move Luis Castillo to left field? They are essentially the exact same player. And Pierre did finally suffer an injury, this year — sprained knee (uh oh). He may not strike out, but he doesn’t get on base very often, either. For the last four years Pierre’s OBP has been between .325-.330. He walked 33 times in 162 games in ’07, and 32 times in 162 games in ’06.

    If Pierre doesn’t have his wheels, he has absolutely no value whatsoever, especially playing a corner outfield position. If the Mets can get Chase Utley or Ian Kinsler to play 2B, maybe they can live with Pierre in LF — assuming he’s healthy.

    Did you know Castillo walked 50 times this year, despite playing only a half season? That’s 16 less times than Reyes and good for 5th on the team. I think everyone’s opinion of Castillo is clouded by their negative emotions toward him. It wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to have him at 2B in ’09. The Mets’ main issue in ’09 re: position players is the same as ’08 — finding a corner outfielder who can mash the ball, rather than counting on an apparition named Moises Alou.

  8. Micalpalyn October 28, 2008 at 4:15 pm
    Agreed the chaces of trading Reyes and Wright are 1% but I would NEVER have traded Kaz, oh, btw a trade of Wright for Cruz jr fell thru at the time. note a yahoo article on Ryan howard…It could well be that thoughts change on Wright over time…even if not now as Jeffrey Marte progresses.

    for record 1% is about where I’d put the most regarded player. I WOULD trade Wright …though not yet. I never thought the Bo Sox would let Nomar go either. I just cannot see a player at present I would trade DW for.

    As for CB. There is not another CF I think who is better. as Such I think Santana and CB along with Wright and Reyes are corner stones for at least 2 more yrs.

    as such I think Murph and F-Mart are looking at the 1st base and RF spots in 2009-2010.

    controversy: could Omar fetch molina and Zito plus funds for castillo and Heilman (type package?). ..We know Omar likes tobuy low.

  9. joe October 28, 2008 at 5:17 pm
    Mic, Jefry Marte is 17 years old. He did fine in the GCL, but nothing that would make anyone think he’s on his way to replacing David Wright. All he proved was that he’s probably ready to play in the FSL in ’09. Still a long way from the bigs.

    As for CB, I don’t care if there is a better CF out there or not. Who says you need the best centerfielder in baseball to get to the postseason? It certainly hasn’t helped the last two years. Shane Victorino doesn’t have half the tools of CB, but the Phils are about to be World Champs.

    The reason I keep bringing up Beltran is because he has value that is likely to diminish over the next two years. I’m not expecting him to improve as at ages 32 – 33 – 34. Most players not on PEDs begin their downward trend at those ages. Of course, Beltran could be an exception. His perpetual nagging injuries suggest to me that he’ll begin declining soon.

    Why are the Giants eager to dump Molina?

  10. isuzudude October 28, 2008 at 5:26 pm
    On the topic of injuries: Joe, I think you’re way off. The Mets had far more “important” players go down for longer periods of time than the Phillies this season. Alou, Duque, and Wise were out for pretty much the whole year. You counter with Rosario, Mathieson, and Zagurski, but none of those 3 were being counted on to have any kind of role as large as Alou, Duque, or Wise were going to have. I can’t even say for sure if any of the 3 would have made the roster out of spring training. ZERO of the Phillies’ starters spent a day on the DL, compared to Duque, Pedro (2 months), and Maine (a month and a few days). You mention Myers but he wasn’t injured, he was just inconsistent. He went to the minors but he was not hurt so he doesn’t count in the “injury” conversation. Additionally, Jenkins missed less than a month and Feliz missed almost a month, and both were under .260 hitters. Then you look at Church who missed practically 3 months, Alou who missed the whole year, Tatis who missed the final 2 weeks, Castillo who missed a month and a half, Pagan who was out entirely after May 13, and Easley who was out from September 14 onward. All .260 or above hitters. And all missed very significant time. Then add on top the little bullshit injuries to Schneider, Castro, Anderson, Nixon. On the other hand – Rollins missed less than a month. Werth less than a month. Victorino 2 weeks in April. No where close to what the Mets had to endure. And finally in the bullpen Wagner missed 2 months, Lidge a week. Not even close. Gordon had an ERA of 5.16 and the Phillies were glad to see him go. But he gets countered with Matt Wise. Seanez missed close to a month but again, who in Philadelphia missed him? Add up the amount of days missed and the stats of the players who missed time and it’s plain as day: the Mets were hit harder by the injury bug by far. I’m not claiming this as some type of achievement, nor am I saying this was the reason the Mets missed the playoffs. But I think sometimes you want to disagree with the majority so badly that you misconstrue reality. And if you think the Phillies overcame just as many injuries as the Mets this year and rose to the occasion moreso than our team, you are dead wrong. The Phillies had to weather a few storms, but not as many as the Mets. No matter how you want to spin it, that is indisputable.

    On the topic of Pierre: I concede that he doesn’t walk and his OBP is not lustily attractive, but harken back to 2006 when a fellow by the name of Lo Duca hit second in one of the most potent lineups in Met history. Only 24 walks in 512 ABs. Yet, he was the perfect #2 hitter behind Reyes, making contact, taking pitches to allow Reyes to steal, fouling pitches off to increae pitch counts, and moving baserunners over with well-placed ground balls. Sounds alot like what Juan Pierre could give us, except Pierre would add speed and base stealing ability. Yes, I see Lo Duca’s OBP was .355 in ’06, not traditionally where Pierre is going to be (.330-ish). But if Pierre collects 200 hits, steals 30-40 bases, and grounds into less than 10 double plays a year, is he not getting the job done as a #2 hitter? All while filling a need in LF the Mets are looking to un-vacate. And is Castillo really an equal comparison? Yes, Pierre had a knee issue this year, but do you REALLY think he’s as injury prone or liable in the field as Castillo? Come on, Castillo hobbles around worse than Joe Torre out there. Pierre’s still got wheels, even if he isn’t as fast as when he first broke into the majors. If you really equate Castillo to Pierre on a level field, then we just simply disagree. I think it’s plain as day that Castillo’s days of being a reliable starter are over, while Pierre still has a few good years left. I will say this: there are better options out there than Juan Pierre. Pierre would do nothing but add to an already lefty-heavy team, he would clog the path for the up-and-coming FMart, and he would be left with no where to hit if the Mets signed Orlando Hudson to play and bat 2nd, as I don’t think batting Pierre 7th or 8th would be a good idea. Still, if Hudson is off the board and the Dodgers are making the pitch to allow you to unload Castillo, that opportunity cannot be passed up.

  11. joe October 28, 2008 at 5:46 pm
    OK, on the topic of injuries, I think YOU are way off. We’ll agree to disagree. You (and the majority?) obviously value scrap items such as Easley, Pagan, Wise, et al much more than I do. That happens when you watch a team every day — objectivity can get lost. For example, Seanez might have the reputation as a career scrub, but he pitched very meaningful innings this year — if he were on the Mets he’d have been their #1 setup man. Gordon’s injury and poor performance were related (elbow), and he began the season as their setup man.

    I’m not understanding how you see Pierre as a different — and BETTER — offensive player than Castillo. Castillo is the exact #2 hitter you are describing. He sees more pitches per plate appearances than Pierre, he gets on base more than Pierre, he’s a switch-hitter, and he plays a skill position. As Nick Evans, Fernando Tatis, and Dan Murphy proved last year, you can stick just about anyone out in left field and not get killed. I’m not so confident you can do the same at 2B.

    So again, we’ll agree to disagree.

    Let me add that I LOVE Juan Pierre. I love the way he plays the game. I just don’t see how he upgrades the Mets. If you told me the Mets would be without Carlos Beltran in 2009, I’d say a Castillo-Pierre deal was a no-brainer (though, only if the Dodgers didn’t want to give up Andruw Jones).

  12. isuzudude October 28, 2008 at 8:56 pm
    I don’t get it, man. You talk up Seanez like he’s gold and than crap on Wise like he’s trash. But I think if you rewind the clock back to March, the Met pundits were expecting Matt Wise to fulfill Heilman’s role as 7th inning fireman as Heilman moved to setup duty, while Phillie pundits were just hoping Seanez wouldn’t be entering any games where the score was within 3 runs. I thought I did a pretty good job detailing the lost time between the “important” players in my last post – i.e, Church 3 months, Alou entire season, Wagner 2 months, Maine a month and a half; whereas Rollins, Werth, Feliz all missed less than a month and every other big name from the Phillies missed barely a week. I also don’t see what’s so wrong with bringing up Easley and Pagan, as both were playing extremely important roles for the Mets at the times of their injuries, but are suddenly cast off as barely considerable as the 25th man on the roster…yet, bringing up Zagurski and Jenkins is supposed to impress me that the Phillies overcame such difficult times. Joe, all you have to do is count all the days the Mets players lost to injury and compare it to the days the Phillies players missed due to injury. Who ever comes out ahead is the team that had to overcome more of an injury burden. The Mets will win that battle in a landslide.

    I think you are so stuck in bashing the Mets because they collapsed on us all for the 2nd straight year that you are the one losing objectivity. Any and all excuses or reasons for their demise are immediately rejected. You simply don’t want to hear it. Your blame is solely focused on Omar Minaya for failing to land the Manny Mothership, even if the deal was never a real option to begin with. You can claim your “inside sources” all you want, but you have yet to tell us what players would have changed hands that would have made that deal reality. Niese and Murphy were not getting it done, I’m sorry. If you want to say FMart, Niese, Parnell, and Heilman that’s fine, but then we could have very well been in the position of watching the Phillies play in the World Series anyway while Manny is getting ready to walk as a free agent and we’re down 3 of our most prized prospects – after trading 4 of them last offseason for Johan. It’s like you assume Manny would have automatically given the Mets the championship. And I know you would have just liked to see the effort and the desire by management to get Manny just to show the fans that they care and they’re going for it, but you need to respect their decision that the risk was just not worth it. It’s too bad not all organizations have as stacked a minor league system as the Dodgers. The Mets cannot afford their same luxuries.

    I will, however, drop the Juan Pierre plea. I think he’s too similar to Castillo to assure he’ll be any better in the lineup, and I think the Mets need a shorter-tenured, power-hitting solution in LF rather than a guy under contract for 3 more years and who can’t hit a home run out of a cardboard box.

  13. joe October 29, 2008 at 12:25 am
    Seanez is hardly gold but he pitched better than everyone out of the Mets’ pen except for Smith and Wagner. He was picked off the scrap heap just like Wise. The only difference is that Seanez pitched enough to show value, while Wise was lost in the Bermuda Triangle. I’m still trying to figure out if he was really injured all that time, or if the Mets simply didn’t want to activate him for some reason. A mystery.

    You did do a good job of detailing the injury comparison. I’ve already established that we disagree. That’s not a knock on you nor your opinion. If anything it’s a knock on my hardheadedness — I simply refuse to use injuries as an excuse for not making the postseason, when the team had plenty of resources from which to draw going back to October 2007. Because of the Mets’ stupidity in gambling that Alou, El Duque, Duaner Sanchez, and Pedro would all come back 100% healthy and make a major contribution in 2008, I refuse to include them in the discussion (Sanchez, in my mind, was a bonus for the first half). But if you want to include them, then yes you’re right that the Mets suffered worse injuries than the Mets. I still don’t know about it being a “landslide” though. The Rays lost major players, as did the Dodgers, as did every other team in baseball. Only the Yankees made it a public excuse.

    And you’re right, Niese and Murphy might not have got it done for Jason Bay. But if it were, would you have cared? I’d do that deal in a heartbeat — even if it meant keeping Bay and forgetting about Manny. And even if it meant adding F-Mart to the deal (it wouldn’t have). If the Mets are dumb enough to leave certain players off their 40-man this winter, you’ll see who it would have taken. And I guarantee you wouldn’t have shed a tear.

    I’m not stuck on the Mets failing to land Manny. I’m stuck on the Mets’ front office telling us how important it was to play “deep into October” (their words, not mine) during last offseason, then suddenly moving from that goal into a “preserve the future” mode after they realized they were going to sell 4 million tickets and the postseason was no longer of economic importance.

    And I’m stuck on Jeff Wilpon telling Mike Francesa that his message to Mets fans is that Citi Field will be a wonderful place to watch a ballgame, regardless of the outcome of the ballgame (again, his words, not mine).

    And I’m stuck on the Mets REWARDING both Omar Minaya and Jerry Manuel for selling tickets, but failing to deliver a postseason appearance.

    And I’m stuck on the Mets deciding to go with suspects such as Nick Evans, Jon Niese, and Bobby Parnell, rather than trade these “untouchables” for one or two vets who could have made a significant difference for no reason other than to justify Tony Bernazard’s job. Sending any of the three away in order to get a Casey Blake, a Jason Bay, a Chad Bradford, should have been a no-brainer.

    If the Mets came out and said they were going into a rebuilding phase, I’d be fine with it. I’d embrace it. I’d love it. But instead, they said the postseason was the goal, and supported that “win now” philosophy by bringing in short-termers such as Pedro, Delgado, Wagner, Alou, Duque, Castillo, LoDuca, etc., over the past three years, so I bought in. Then, just when the team is in a position to find their way in, but it’s apparent to everyone that they were short a few arms and maybe a bat, they pull out the rug and change their tune. I felt blindsided, and am still stunned by the lack of commitment to what was supposedly the goal.

    So excuse me if I don’t “respect” the Mets’ management. I think they say one thing and then execute another — they remind me of politicians, in fact. And I believe they are a bunch of bungling idiots who overvalue their prospects and have established themselves as laughingstocks to the rest of MLB. The shame and irony is that Omar Minaya is an outstanding judge of talent — but he has given the power of talent evaluation to people who don’t come close to his ability, and are more interested in advancing themselves than improving the organization.

    BTW remind me to never again state that I have inside sources, and pretend it was never mentioned. I’m not a professional journalist but merely a blogger typing up superfluous garbage from my parents’ basement at all hours of the night. People like me don’t have inside sources. It’s all speculation and/or fantasy, completely contrived and designed to get attention.

  14. isuzudude October 29, 2008 at 5:38 am
    Joe, you are a great debater and you always provide ample information to support your arguments. That’s why, even though I’m guilty of peeking from time to time, I never stray from MetsToday because your writing, analysis, and feedback are a hundred times better than anything else Mets-related you’ll read on the web. Case in point: your last post. You’re 100% entitled to feel back-stabbed by the Mets for sending mixed messages for the last few years, and for handling controversies (Church’s injury, Randolph’s firing, Torrealba’s non-contract, the September collapses, etc) so astronomically poorly. The Mets by far are the most difficult team in MLB to root for. They take your hand and lead you right to utopia, and then yank you back to hell as if they enjoy dishing out the punishment.

    We disagree on many things, Joe, and there are times I’m sure you want to reach into your computer screen and strangle me for writing things that you think are so out of touch. But I think this is what makes your website so great. The ability to debate and to persuade other people into agreeing with your arguement. Nothing written here is personal. We all want the same thing, and that’s for the Mets to pull their heads of out their asses and start putting together a winning – as in, winning World Series – team. And until that happens we are all going to be shouting a thousand different ways for how the Mets can achieve that goal, and each of us are going to think that there’s only one correct way to do it, and that’s our own way. Much like winning creates good chemistry in the clubhouse, seeing the Mets win will make us all more agreeable on the blogs. We’re all dying to see that happen. Let’s just hope we don’t kill each other before that happens.

    At the end of the day, we can all come up with the most flawless plans for how to get the Mets back on top, but it all means zilch because none of us have any control over what the Mets do. At least with politicians we can vote them out of office if they lie to us or do a poor job. But even though Omar’s team has gotten into the postseason with a huge payroll just once in 4 years, he still gets rewarded with a 3 year extension. The only thing we really can do is hope. Hope he makes the right moves. Hope he takes the right gambles. Hope he’s learned from his mistakes. Because the alternative is giving up and not caring anymore, and I’m too much of a baseball junkie to take that step yet.

    YOU DA MAN, JOE!

  15. joe October 29, 2008 at 7:29 am
    Sorry ‘dude, I’m going to have to disagree with you. I’m not much of a debater, but simply a stubborn, belligerent fool with an English degree.

    😉

    So difficult right now, being that the only baseball available to see is the Phillthies, on the verge of winning the World Series. Compounding it is trying to root against them, and seeing Scott Kazmir on the mound.

    As you can tell, it makes me quite ornery!

    BTW I think we should consider turning our disagreements and opinions to the airwaves, or TV. The contrived debates (Loudmouths, Miked Up, etc.) are tiresome and wouldn’t stand a chance against our unbridled enthusiasm.