The Dan Murphy Myth
Last year, a determined and serious young man leapfrogged over AAA into the big leagues and became a fan favorite for his hustle, energy, and line-drive bat. Perhaps most importantly, Danny Murphy was “home-grown” — a ballplayer drafted by the Mets and developed in their farm system. There is something particularly endearing about a player who starts at the bottom, works his way up, and earns himself a spot with the hometown team.
And it doesn’t hurt to arrive in the midst of a hitting streak.
Think back to this time last summer, when Danny was giving it his all to learn left field “on the job”. He had his troubles, for sure — who wouldn’t? — but his tenacity was up to the task. He came to the park early to learn the nuances of fly ball catching, hitting cutoff men, and reacting to balls bouncing off the wall. We all watched young Danny transform himself from a minor league third baseman into a Major League outfielder over the course of 7 weeks. Some of his improvements were subtle, but they were expertly observed by the keen eyes of former MLBers Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling — who luckily were in the SNY booth and could pass on the information to we neophytes sitting at home. These observations were of course supported by quotes from Mets manager Jerry Manuel, members of his coaching staff, and the players themselves — and eventually picked up by respected journalists, who in turn passed on to their readers the optimism of Danny Murphy’s improving defense.
Thus the myth began, and spread like wildfire: Daniel Murphy was developing into a strong defender in the outfield — so much so, that the Mets brass was penciling him into the 2009 lineup as the starting left fielder. And why not? They had to find somewhere to put that potent bat.
Ah, but there’s the other myth that had its genesis this time last year: that Dan Murphy was a future batting champion. He reportedly had a “quick bat”, a “mature approach”, “great patience and discipline”, and “hit the ball to all fields”. We knew all this because that’s what the journalists were writing, and what Keith Hernandez told us every time “Murph” came to the plate. And who would argue with Keith? He actually won a batting title, so he’d know better than anyone.
Unfortunately, what we saw last year from Dan Murphy was a mirage. He’s a decent hitter, and he does try very hard, but the fact is, his skillset isn’t particularly overwhelming in comparison to dozens of other hitters currently in the minor leagues.
It turns out his bat speed is average at best, and eventually the league figured out that he was easily overpowered by hard fastballs inside. To his credit, Murph made the adjustment, and started looking “in” — but simultaneously became susceptible on the outside of the plate, because he was starting his swing sooner.
To be fair, there are very few batters who can cover both sides of the plate — even the elite have a vulnerability somewhere in the strike zone. The difference is, the elite compensate in one way or another, and/or can still handle their vulnerable area better than most. Murphy, however, is not elite — he’s ordinary. Not ordinary like you and me, but ordinary in terms of the best hitters on the planet. He has two forms of attack: 1) guess; and 2) force the pitcher to throw enough pitches until he makes a mistake. This is how Dan Murphy survives, and you have to give him credit for finding a way.
His tenacity and will to survive at this level are inspiring, commendable traits and make him a guy you can’t help but root for. However, he most likely doesn’t have enough skills to warrant a job as a starting first baseman in MLB — particularly not in the 21st century.
Off the top of my head, the only singles hitters who were able to forge a sustained, successful career as a starting first baseman in the last 30 years were Rod Carew, Pete Rose, and Mike Hargrove (yes, Dave Magadan was a singles-hitting first baseman, but he never once attained 500 at-bats in a season). Maybe you can throw Mark Grace and Bill Buckner in there too, though both were good for around 15 HR a year. But most of those names share a common thread — all but Hargrove were perennial threats to win the batting crown, and a near-lock to hit at least .300. Hargrove was a shade lower — around .290 most years — but made up for it with a sky-high OBP (which, ironically, was not valued in his heyday the way it is today). Further, all but Grace played when there were only 26 teams in MLB, the pitching was less diluted, and home runs were more rare. These days, an average first baseman on a contending team provides at least 18-20 HRs AND a second asset. Sid Bream would not have a starting job in the 21st century.
It’s questionable whether Murphy will ever hit more than 10-15 HRs in a season, and though he might have a shot at .300 in his best year, it’s highly doubtful he’ll threaten for a batting crown. His power will have to improve considerably to be a legitimate homerun threat, and that also is unlikely considering his age and the ban on PEDs. Though his baserunning instincts are average, his foot speed is below average and won’t get better. His fielding is below average now, and can improve — but will it be enough to offset a projected ceiling of a .275 batting average, .330 OBP, and 10 HRs ? Those are numbers more fitting of a slick-fielding second baseman, or a catcher.
So far, Murphy has proven to be an excellent pinch-hitter, and has shown an above-average ability to drive runners home. He reminds me a lot of Matt Franco in that respect, and I believe he has a place on a championship team in that capacity. People such as Franco, Danny Heep, Gates Brown, Manny Mota, and Lenny Harris made a career out of pinch-hitting, so this isn’t a knock on Murphy in any way. Rather, it is a realistic analysis of where his future lies.
That said, it’s time to start seeing Dan Murphy for what he is, rather than placing unreasonable expectations upon him. It’s clear the Mets are going to give him every chance to re-discover the magic that allowed him to hit .333 last August — and this is what worries me. Murph might go on a hot streak between now and October, and that would be enough for the Mets to pencil him in as the starting first baseman — in other words, a repeat of what they did last year, but with LF. It’s the same backward thinking that assumed Fernando Tatis would hit .297 again, when in reality, that average was artificially boosted by an abnormally hot month of July.
Indeed, Murphy might find a way to improve upon his current .250 AVG / .310 OBP to more respectable levels, and occasionally pull off a flashy play in the field. But in the end, he’s not Rod Carew, Pete Rose, or even Mark Grace. He’s Daniel Murphy: hard-nosed, tenacious, likeable player who belongs in MLB — though not as the starting first baseman on a championship team.
The argument is that 1B is a position where teams need to get more offense (particularly power) these days, and Murph isn’t that kind of hitter.
Agreed on your assessment of the ’69 Mets. But the game has changed remarkably since then. Unless they find a starting three like Seaver, Koosman, and Gentry — all of whom were better then than Johan Santana is now — the Mets will need to find more offense to compete next year.
Believe me, I preferred the days when pitching, defense, and fundamentals were valued … unfortunately Bowie Kuhn, Bud Selig, and the profit-minded owners have transformed this game into something much different (and less interesting, IMHO). But that’s for another day …
You are preaching to the choir re: Minaya, and all your examples are spot on.
It’s crazy that Minaya is valued for his player evaluation “skills”, when he’s the same person who dealt Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee, and Lee Stevens … then turned around and traded Colon for an injured El Duque, Jeff Liefer, and Rocky Biddle.
Wow … I may have to build a post around that trade!
With Murph, it depends on whether or not he is able to add a slight umph to his bat-speed. When pitchers figured out his weakness, a lot of his line-drives turned into ground balls and pop-ups. If he can get those hands a bit faster, they will become liners again and he might be a valuable second baseman.
There is one way for Murph to get those hands faster … but he’ll need to speak with Wally Joyner or Rafael Palmeiro about the proper dosage.
And I said this because his bat speed is only a touch away. He only needs a slight umph to turn some grounders into liners and push a couple more over the wall. And right now, I’d call him a .275/.330/.420 who had a very unlucky year in a harsh pitcher’s park. He’s not nearly as good as he was last year, but not as bad as he is this year.
Murphy can be a good player, if we are lucky, and he is given a chance. Perhaps Murphy and Pelfrey are in the “sophmore slump,” perhaps they stink, but the Mets will never have homegrown talent if they keep giving up early.
Don’t forget Evans and Ike Davis, and the possibility of a platoon. If they are going to bring someone in, it shouldn’t be at the expense of another position.
If everyone comes back healthy, I wouldn’t be against running this team out there — minus Sheffield, DelGado and Wagner — early next year, and seeing what’s up at the trading deadline.
While I loved what Murphy showed toward the end of last year, the Mets will be providing him with more “on the job” training in 2009….how he adjusts to a steady dose of Major League pitching remains to be seen; BUT the Mets shouldn’t NOT explore options this winter strictly on the basis of hurting Murphy’s feelings.
They already re-signed Fernando Tatis to do that. I wouldn’t be holding out for a replication of his 2008 numbers — and am not excited about the prospect of seeing him for a prolonged period; provided Murphy does struggle.
If the Mets can upgrade significantly, then by all means do so. Similar sentiment has been expressed by Minaya regarding Fernando Martinez being ready next year…..whoa, whoa, whoa — I’m not ready to slam on the brakes for these 2 unproven rooks just yet — especially in prime-time roles.
See what you can do within the budget right now, as certain guys may fall below market value.
Next year, the crop doesn’t look too promising….and who knows what kind of state the economy will be in by then. Market might recover, and these guys’ll be making ridiculous money again.
The 2010 Free Agent class looks to be a pretty boring cast of characters, and if the financial market’s better — then why would you even run the risk of having to overpay for anybody?
My advice: Keep lookin’ now.
On the one hand, I agree 100% with developing from within. But as long as the Mets have NO ONE to promote for 2010, I’d be fine with seeing Wagner and Sheffield return. And though I can’t wait to see Delgado leave the Mets, his injury was the most impactful of any others this year (but I still don’t want him back).
But if we don’t have the numbers, better to keep building than keep selling what prospects we have. What are the alternatives as first base anyway? Probably another 34-year-old on the way down. I’d rather take a shot with Murphy, or a Murphy/Evans/Tatis rotation, with a possibility of I. Davis later in the year.
As for LF, I know an easy way to get a 30 HR there without paying anything! Just move Beltran there to take the strain off his legs. Then you put F-Mart in center, and suddenly his offense won’t look so bad compared with others at his position (if he can stay healthy). If he isn’t Beltran in the field, you can swap them late in the game.
Murph has played first base as well as — if not better — than Delgado. Lest we forget Murph has fewer errors than the absurdly beloved D. Wright. Plus, Murph has 1 or 2 home runs less than St. David…but the chorus of contempt for Murph continues ad absurdum…
The NY Mets are a disaster this year. Sure, I get it — it’s the injuries, right. But, it’s more than that…It’s signing Perez, Delgado, and Castillo to absurd deals. I’m not sure the Mets would ever win with Beltran either. D. Wright has proven he is a solid player, but no real leader. Bringing back Manuel has proven to be a stupid move. He has made some seriously bizarre managerial decision…his constant and silly reliance on lefty-righty match ups…Stats have destroyed the flow and momentum of modern baseball, but Manuel adds insult to injury.
When I read stuff like this I — a lifelong Mets fan — begin to recognize that Met fans sometimes suffer from the baseball equivalent of the Stockholm Syndrome…
But, let’s waste time discussing one of the few bright spots that the Mets have this year — Murph!! The 21st Century’s Mr Hustle!!!
I’m in agreement with 95% of what you wrote, which I suppose puts you on the same level as me. So join the hack club! (By the way, it’s not so bad to be a hack … it’s all a matter of embracing it. I’m a hack, it’s true, and I love it!)
Sorry to have disappointed you with all my “pseudo-analysis” … you’re right, I just refuse to admit that Dan Murphy is the next Pete Rose, because I HATE players who hustle and play hard! That goshdarn whipper-snapper is making all the old guys look bad, and that’s embarrassing! Didn’t anyone teach that kid manners when he was growing up?
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-Delgado COULD have been nontendered or just not had thAT 12M option picked up.
-We could have let Ollie walk and non tendered him..We DO know that the Mets simply were NOT spenders last off season and would not have paid the 60M Lowe demanded…but in hindsight Jon Garland looks like he would have been a better choice than Ollie
-Speaking of non spending…i still find it hard to believe the BLATANT love affair between O-dog and Omar did not result in a contract…EXCEPT jeff Wilpon was unwilling to eat $$ from the Castillo contract. As i saw somewhere else in blogland everyone has to eat a bad contract sometime.
Ditto on the LF position.
Conclusion: The Mets ownership were all too willing to tank from day -1 leaving the front office, players and fans flapping.
Frank – in the beginning of your recent comment you seemed to be making an excuse for the Wilpons (getting “screwed” by Madoff) but in the end you suggest they deserved it. Curious which way you really feel.
Here’s my take: yes, the Wilpons were stripped of a huge sum of $$ thanks to Madoff and the cost of Kiddie Field. BUT, it was the Wilpons who put their trust in Madoff, and it was the Wilpons who chose to build a billion-dollar homage to the Brooklyn Dodgers. In both situations, their main goal was to generate more revenues for themselves (unless you are one of those people who believe the Wilpons built a new stadium “for the fans”, in which case I won’t waste time arguing). In pursuit of their greedy goals, they cheaped out on the final “product” (that’s what the Mets publicly call the 25-man roster).
If you go to a fancy new restaurant, pay $50 for a steak, and get something that tastes like shoe leather, you’d have every right to complain. Now, if the restaurant owner came to your table and explained that after paying for the nice ambience, velvet napkins, comfortable seating, shiny silverware, and exquisite china, he couldn’t afford anything other than cheap, old, tasteless meat, would you go back to that restaurant?
The Wilpons have continually put their focus on profit, rather than the quality of their “product on the field”. And very quickly, they are damaging their “brand”.
I was referring to why the Wilpons did not have any money to put into the team this year because of Madoff and the new ballpark. They did get beat by Madoff as did so many other unfortunate folks.
But after beating Mr. Doubleday out of his fair share of what the Mets were worth; that is where the what goes around comes around came in.
And I did read your entire article (from top to bottom) on Murph. I just felt you were being overly critical of a guy who deserves a shot to prove he belongs and tried to point out how it was unfortunate to be thrust into this position. If no injuries occurred this year and he could have batted second in front of St. David he may have seen a lot better pitches and this blog might never have occurred. How about picking on Schneider he literally stinks and really can’t catch EITHER?
They should have stuck with the 2B idea, or put the catcher’s gear on him.
The Mets have not done anything to make me believe that Schneider is part of their plans for the future. If they do, you will surely see a post about it here.
Have a great weekend Joe.
Although, it was a lovely hit tonight bring Francouer home to win in the 9th.
I’ve read in several of your comments that the 1st baseman has to be a heavy hitter. That makes no sense to me. Why not the 2nd basemen, or third, or a couple of the outfielders?
Very generally speaking, first base and left field are the easiest positions on the field to play. That doesn’t mean they’re “easy”, it just means they are easier than the other 7 on the diamond.
That said, traditionally, baseball teams will put their very best hitters at one or both of those positions, regardless of their defensive ability. The reasoning is that you can give up some athleticism at those two spots as a trade-off for getting a strong hitter — preferably a power hitter — into the lineup.
Yes, there are exceptions to this generality. But if you look at the World Champion teams throughout history, more often than not you will see a first baseman who provides significant offensive production and homerun power.
Also — and again, GENERALLY speaking — because first base requires less defensive skill, it is usually easier to find players with quality bats who can play the position. In contrast, players who play 2B, SS, and catcher (for example), generally are focused on defense first, and teams generally value defense ahead of offense at those positions. As a result, teams do not expect tremendous offensive production from those positions (though if they get it, it’s a bonus).
Finally, if the Mets had better offensive players in the outfield, and/or another power hitter either at 2B or behind the plate, then Murphy’s lack of offense wouldn’t be as much of an issue.
Another thing Mr. Joe who the hell wrote the book that said firstbase HAD to be a power position. It seems to me the Cubs had Grace at first and a pwoerhouse at second named Sandberg. Did that kind of balance out that theory. Does it really matter where the power comes from?
Secondly, I also stated that for Murphy to play 1B, the lack of power WOULD have to be made up somewhere else, such as catcher or 2B.
Hey, if you can find another Ryne Sandberg or Jeff Kent to play 2B, then maybe Murphy can stay at 1B.
Take a look at the entire pool of MLB and MLB-ready second basemen, and see how many are power hitters. And of that group you find, how many might be available via trade. And of that group, which can the Mets trade for using pieces they already have. Figure that out, and find a place to send Luis Castillo, and then maybe Murphy can stay at 1B.
At the same time, Murphy will have to turn into Mark Grace — and that means brandishing a Gold Glove, hitting .300-.330, and posting a .375 – .400 OBP.
OR, the Mets have to get at least TWO power-hitting, corner outfielders. OR, they have to get Joe Mauer from the Twins AND one power-hitting outfielder. OR, they can turn their team into the ’85 Cardinals and find speedsters for all of the open positions (even that is a challenge).
The 1970s are long gone. Bud Selig’s rules have changed this glorious game into a team version of home run derby. So it’s next to impossible to win a championship without a lineup filled with mashers.
Why do you so called experts always make these you gotta go get this guy or get rid of this guy stuff? Other teams know your strengths and weaknesses better than the Mets do. Why should any person want to take Castillo’s contract. He can’t even walk down the dugout steps. Grow your own players. Instead of disecting Murph why don’t you go through the Mets minor leagues and look at some of the jewels they will be bringing up in the next three (3) to five (5) years. Maybe Ike Davis is the next Boog Powell or Rafael Palmiero but likely he will be Roberto Petagine or Rico Brogna. We once had Jeff Kent and literally GAVE him away to Cleveland because he had red***. Hard-nosed tough character guy (and a great family guy I might add) who played hurt but no room on the Mets.
Once again, you are living in the past by bringing up the names Vernon, Parker, Fain, etc. The game has changed, unfortunately. If the Mets had a lineup similar to the ’66 Dodgers today, they’d need a starting rotation headed by Johan Santana, Roy Halladay, and Tim Lincecum (since Don Drysdale, Sandy Koufax, and Don Sutton have retired).
We can agree to disagree. You can build your Mets around Dan Murphy as a centerpiece, since you like him and see him as the next Pete Rose. That’s fine. I’ll build my Mets with Murphy as a super-utility / PH guy. Don Money made an All-Star team in that role, so there’s no shame in it.
The Mets ARE giving Murphy a chance — they’ve been finding opportunities for him since last July. From what I’ve seen of him, and from what I know about his minor league experience, I’ve seen enough to believe his role is as a top bench guy, not as a starting MLB first baseman.
I like that you brought up Chambliss, because he was a guy I enjoyed watching when I was a kid. And yes, that is too far in the past — in the 1970s, Chambliss WAS considered a power hitter. Back then, if you remember, someone who hit 17-20 HRs a year was a “slugger”. Everything changed in the 1990s, with expansion, PEDs, and the rule changes designed to give the hitters dominance.
In this day and age, I think even Mark Grace would have trouble convincing a team he’s an everyday 1B. Look at what happened to Sean Casey once he stopped hitting homeruns — he bounced from team to team and eventually out of MLB because power is a priority at 1B.
Minaya needs to go because he places no value on his farm system which is sad.
I still say it is way too early to judge Murph. I like him because of his hustle and attitude and sometimes it just takes time. If Murph was 26 or 27 I would be in 100% agreement with you. One person wrote in and said maybe Pelfry and Murph are going through some sophomore jinx.
We’ll see.
You may be right about Murphy, I may be wrong. It’s all subjective and players are about as predictable as the weather. I don’t see Murphy’s year as a “sophomore jinx” as much as the NL exploiting his weaknesses. I wish they’d put Danny behind the plate and turn him into a Jim Leyritz type of super-utility guy, who can fill in at a different position almost every day.
As for Pelf, I never understood the Mets’ rushing him up to MLB so quickly. This year isn’t a sophomore jinx as much as a guy who was never given the opportunity to properly learn an off-speed pitch (in the minors!). Again, I go back to baseball pre-PEDs and pre-expansion, when a kid with an arm like Pelf’s would spend 4-5 years in the minors and arrive in the bigs with at least 3 “plus” pitches.
My son says I am crazy that money drives them but I am not so sure. I mean if I had been good enough to play I would have wanted to be George Brett. Good hardnosed player with good character got to play 20 years in a nice town like KC. He could have made tons more in NY or Chic. or LA but chose KC. Lucky guy. His attitude probably was whats a few bucks. He got his WS ring. Life is great.
I personally think that the Mets made a major mistake in paying Beltran all that money to be a superstar in NYC. He hasn’t been bad — he’s been pretty good — but he has not fulfilled the NY superstar role that his contract demands. To get that kind of money to play CF in NYC, you have to be at an A-Rod level, AND be able to handle being the #1 guy on the team. Beltran has consistently been more of a complementary player than the type who carries a team on his back, and further, he’s a ghost when it comes to the media. He would have been best served playing in a smaller market, or going to the Yankees where he wouldn’t have been the #1 guy. For the Mets, in my opinion, it was too much money spent on one player over too many years. Unfortunately, people read that and say “oh so you hate Beltran too”. No, I just don’t think he is a 7-year / $119M player. Maybe half that.
Another guy I liked was Paul O’Neil. Went against the union and signed with the Yanks when others offered more money. Good example of a hard nosed character guy. My kind of player. Story in Texas was he stayed with the Yanks because his wife and kids liked where they lived and went to school in Jersey. Stand up kind of guy and as you can tell I love my Mets and therefore hate the Yanks. People in Texas can’t understand the NY ‘tude. They will say to me well yeah you are a Mets fan but you still root for the Yanks in the playoffs. I say no a true NY fan picks his team and would never ever root for the other one. BTW – CHICAGO is the same as NY – Cubs or Sox but never both.
I agree with you on O’Neill as well.
Glad we finally agree on something!
We need more hard-nosed clutchy guys like Joe McEwing. That;s the ticket.